Thank you so much for this comment! . She said a few things that struck me as being a little off, so I decided to check her out. How was Jesus telling them to treat those that did not repent yet? Maybe I dont understand your blog. And ouch! It seems that if you are proclaiming that Preacher/teachers such as Lisa Harper are wrong, then where is your study and explanation of what the scripture. Christine Caine is definitely a false teacher. Whos Your Daddy? reminds readers that, regardless of the earthly fathers or skin daddies, as Missy calls them who might fail us or are absent in this life, we have a perfect Heavenly Father who loves us unconditionally. And scripture teaches us that the heart is deceptive and desperately wicked. Victoria Beckham and her daughter Harper looked relaxed as the enjoyed a day of shopping together in London over the weekend. Women who care about solid biblical teaching and who I could discuss scripture with! Especially ones that are nationally known and are on the womens conference speaking circuit, and whose Bible studies are found in Lifeway. Sometimes I view these false teachers supporters as victims, but then Im not so sure. Lisa Shelton. She has done years of research and compiled a pretty exhaustive list. Also, you stated that Jesus hates religion. May I ask where you gained your authority on deeming someone a false teacher. Prayed about it, dug deep and here is my peace: Galatians. You have only talked about your feelings. We can be quick to waive our Bibles around and kick people out of the church because of this verse as she explained . Lisa Harper is an American religious researcher and author. Thank you Mindy! I got reamed pretty good from a supposed friend who didnt like what I hs to say about the IF Gathering conference that is coming up. CHRIST OVER CULTURE. Is her act Noble yes, is it biblical NO. Absolutely agree with you Jocelyn! She was a regular on the Women of Faith Tour for 8 years. Mark 2:17 says On hearing this, Jesus said to them, It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. For the life of me I dont know where the comment went. Come hear the message that God has laid on Lisas heart for our church to help us take a Next Step in our journey of faith with Jesus! You have been a blessing for me discovering you today. Rarely are the terms hilarious storyteller and theological scholar used in the same sentence, much less used to describe the same person but then again, Lisa Harper is anything but stereotypical! My husband and I left our church of 11 years last fall. And most of the women gracing the platforms should not even be teaching a childrens Sunday School class. When Lisa Harper was five years old, her father left her, her mother, and her sister. The 48 year old popstar went incognito in a pair of black sunglasses . I too have woken from the dream that was the Christian Womens Ministry She She Foo Foo club; all the fluff with hugs and kisses and never any meat. But it is really just another comment based on feelings, and not backed up by scripture. When she speaks, ears perk up! ( emphasis mine ), Lisa is indeed a very popular speaker on the circuit. I appreciate that Lauren! Someone who is getting things wrong on a regular basis shouldnt be teaching anyone, and should be avoided by anyone who is seeking to be taught the truth. You have given no scriptural backing to why you believe Lisa Harper is a trusted teacher. Thank you for your comment. However, I dont want them teaching me the bible. I have an honest question before proceeding to finish reading this article. I have been more discerning and, dare I say, more skeptical. She often tells of God speaking to her in exact quotations. It means a lot that it was read and understood with the intention that it was written! . Friday, 12 August 2022 13:30. If you will look at scripture instead of liking to your feelings, you would find that 2/3 of the New Testament deals with exposing false teachers. Feeling good was the name of the game and the fellowship was sweet, but I think it lulled so many including myself into a false sense of what being a Christian woman was/is. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. LH is a single woman who made her family without the institution and the instructions that God provided. This is a BIG BUSINESS. Are we not to first Love God and to love one another as we love ourselves. I sent a rather lengthy and carefully worded reply to your blog about Lisa Harper but I see now at the bottom of the page that if a person is not in agreement with you about who is or is not a false teacher you will not post their reply. Join Facebook to connect with Lisa Victory and others you may know. I understand where you are coming from, because as I said, I followed several of these women for years before I grew in the word and discernment, with scripture shining light on what these women were actually saying. All Rights Reserved. If it IS, then women need to be warned, not coddled in the belief that as long as someone has a Bible open they are ok. Oh yes! God is our Lord, He gave us the person of Jesus look to them for all truth. Evangelical Christian and psychologist James Dobson was the founder of Harper's former employer Focus on . I went to a Beth Moore bible study once and that was more than enough. Thank you, and God bless you! Your congressman? Also we are not taught in the bible to see the best in those who teach falsely and mishandle scripture. Discussion or questions are always welcome. Because she eisegetes scripture rather than exegeting, ( inserting ones own thoughts about the text instead of breaking down a passage in its original context how it was meant to its original readers ) shes going to get it wrong more often than she gets it right. I think the Lord teaches us and The Holy Bible is our guide to discipleship. The first thing that would question her authenticity as a true biblical teacher is her association with people like Steven Furtick. I was beginning to actually discern when something that was said was false, because I began to have an understanding what scripture REALLY said. Lisa's vocational resume is comprised of 30+ years of church and para-church ministry leadership, including 6 years as the director of Focus on the Family's national women's ministry where she created the popular "Renewing the Heart" conferences, which were attended by almost 200,000 women, as well as a decade of touring with "Women of Faith," The amount of corruption in the Church today is heartbreaking. The 28-year-old's 'marriage' to Adam Seed ended in flames when they . She will be greatly missed by those of us whose lives she touched. In 2020, the Associated Press called the idea a "myth.". A false teacher continually teaches wrongly and is disobedient to scripture, such as Lisa publicly teaching men, and if they come to see the error of their ways, repents for misleading. And Im not gonna lie, I love a good GIRL PREACHER, and Lisa is one of my favorites., *She appears with and is closely associated with numerous false and problematic teachers as well as the Word of Faith and NAR movements. 612 Lisa Harper Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights Custom Content EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING BOARDS CART SIGN IN Editorial Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO All Sports Thanks for your insight, Robin! . Too few today, with such a vast amount of false teaching. I can assure you that the pastors and teachers for who have a great amount of love and respect have gotten it wrong once or a few times before. My eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit to false teaching when my church taught a Christine Caine BibleStudy. There is no restriction on that. Michelle Lesley: Lisa Harper-Not Recommended, Lighthouse Trails: What About Lisa Harper, Bye-Bye Beth: What Beth Moores Split with the SBC Means. However impressive her resume, she has several concerning issues. It has nothing to do with who is more educated. She has encouraged me, pointed me to follow after Jesus more passionately, and put a fire in my soul to want to study His Word even more. Today Besides all the false teaching and progressivism that reigns in a lot of mega churches these days, the overemphasis on the enneagram is astounding. I left a reply and you chose not to post it. There is no new revelation. Amazing how much pushback this post attracted! She's written over 10 books and is a sought-after public speaker. And judge not lest you be judged isnt a contextual biblical reason. Go to actual scripture to find out what is true and what isnt. So when she approached her adoption agency, she told her agent she was not interested in adopting a child who had a good shot at a momma and a daddy, because I still believe thats the biblical template.. Birds of a feather flock together, and this is true Id false teachers. They were pretty much outcasts in Jewish society because they were known cheats and thieves, collecting the Jews money to give to the Romans. Who is leading thousands and thousands of women into false beliefs about Jesus and the scriptures? 3. If you are looking to learn more about who are trustworthy teachers and who arent, I would direct you to my go-to source for these things: However, one day someone brought it to my attention, osteens lack of scripture. Let me know if you do find something more. https://michellelesley.com/2023/01/12/6-ways-your-credibility-is-crushed-when-you-defend-a-false-teacher-3/?fbclid=IwAR1thFpncqGfIbbb9TEkpUVt_cZ2vRJskD-X9xNMtdUlFBiIn_0ywfZbxCE&mibextid=Zxz2cZ. https://michellelesley.com/popular-false-teachers/ I will not argue with anyone who has no scriptural basis to back up what they say, but merely just defend teachers they like based on their feelings. I dont have time or the desire to reiterate what I have laid out already. Just curious. Hi Bao!! for them. In this 7 minute clip, she is preaching at Steven Furticks Elevation Church. My desire is for Christian women to walk worthy of the calling we have received. Reading Scripture is wonderful understanding it and make relate to your situation thats a total different story. Regardless of what you think about that speaker/teacher, Im certain Jesus wouldnt take to the internet to do what you have done here. Since you are a new seeker and you have read this article thats great it means youre looking for answers. Jakes, John Bevere, Lisa Harper: Have Victory in Your Waiting Season | Praise on TBN - YouTube Join some of our favorite Christian speakers on TBN's Praise speak on their experiences. *She preaches to men. This means being students of Gods word at more than a surface level. Lisa Terkhurst ? Prayers for Victory in Spiritual Warfare - eBook. There is judgement, there is wrath, and Jesus paid for all of it. In this video she is failing at trying to make a point that Matthew 18 is not about church discipline. Its obvious from the mounds of evidence of error, the truth of scripture is not relevant. At Women of Faith you didnt even have to bring a bible, because it was mostly the speakers talking about what was in their new book, available on the tables in the lobby for $19.99. Every book of the New Testament except for Philemon warns about the dangers of false teachers and even calls them out by name. He even named names of the false teachers and had them removed from the churches and told the pastors to follow suit. For further reading:Michelle Lesley: Lisa Harper-Not RecommendedLighthouse Trails: What About Lisa Harper? They molested Lisa and her sister, and the abuse left Lisa with a feeling of worthlessness. This includes being the Bible study leader where men are present in the audience/class. I recommend you Reading Matthew 24 for a start. I am fully prepared for criticism for doing this sort of series. Discipling Women For Discernment Through Doctrine, Christian, wife, mom, homeschooler, podcaster, Exalting the name of Jesus through Christian essays. She is still struggling to find our Lord and Savior Grace and Mercy. Now it makes me cringe! ) I have a burden for women who need some guidance in navigating the world of female Bible teachers and the womenss conference circuit. Yet in spite of her credentials, the most noticeable thing about Lisa Harper is her authenticity. She uses emotions during her teaching and the tears gets me irritated. Hi. Lisa Harper was born on August 24, 1963, in the United States. Now regarding Lisa Harper, I noticed that she used to work for Focus on the Family. You need to do some additional research. Some of the criteria for them being either false teachers or biblically unsound are: Jakes, John Bevere and Lisa Harper discuss how to overcome your waiting season and find . Read dependable commentaries. hi, Robin. Thank you. Her style combines sound scriptural exposition with easy-to-relate to anecdotes and comedic wit. *She preaches to men. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners. I recently studied this Matthew 18 passage with my Bible Study Fellowship group and it is a difficult one to wrestle with. Her mother married Angel, who was diagnosed with skin cancer two years later. Watch T.D. And the younger generations are falling for anything that seems relevant. I havent looked into all her associations. I notice your comment starts with I think. Nurture is not expensive-it is And what it meant to the original readers. This doesnt mean she isnt teaching bad theology. I didnt know much about her so I decided to google her. I have felt guilty about my internal critical finding in her teaching. Blessings to you as you continue to study and learn and grow! Singapore. The bible isnt all love and acceptance. The Bible is your reference if you heard her referring to a verse from a chapter Go and read the whole Chapter and you will see that she is not correct and taking it out of context. Thanks for your helpful website and the 7 minute video clip you posted. Jakes, John Bevere, Lisa Harper - Have Victory in Your Waiting Season. Haper's parents divorced when she was five years old. Lisa Harper in Indiana We found 37 records for Lisa Harper in Indianapolis, Avilla and 19 other cities in Indiana. I just started learning about what is right and what is not with Jesus. As I noted in the article, I fully expect these types of blog pieces not to be well-received by some. I would suggest thorough reading of 1&2 Timothy, Titus, and Jude. It is a headship issue. We are clearly taught in scripture, that women are not to teach or have an authority position over men within the church setting or gathering of the local body of believers. My eyes were opened! I agree with you 100%. Thank you so much! With that being said I wanted to see if you would help me understand what you mean when you say that she is teaching to men , Im not sure I understand. Its all about feeding the I, I stead of starving the I, so my flesh will die and my spirit will live! Though she was uncertain about her decision to adopt earlier on in the process, looking back, Harper said she totally scored with Missy, whom she described as the greatest kid since sliced bread., Do You Really Know God? The well-known Christian author and speaker told Faithwire she can identify with the heart cry of the women speaking out about the abuse theyve faced, adding her heart breaks for women who are just beginning to deal with their own pain., Chain Breaker Singer Zach Williams Records Album Live In Nashville Prison: It Was Just Like a Wall Between Us Dropped, As the big sister in the house, Harper cautioned the women coming forward in this season of reckoning from turning toward human repentance to heal the deepest wounds in our soul., What your souls really longing for isnt the answers, its not even necessarily a punitive reckoning for the men who have been so abusive, she said. Now, in this #MeToo era, she sees herself as a "big sister" to those coming to terms with the sexual abuse they may have endured. I can assure you that no dependable commentary gives Lisas version of what this text says. Thanks. But I think you are on dangerous ground to accuse anybody of being a false teacher. While there are women I greatly admire who have done extensive research in the area of helping us avoid false teachers, I hope to be able to add a bit to the mix and give you another resource to turn to when you have questions or want to share with others. ( I am ashamed to admit, I used to LOVE Beth Moores hairbrush story! I am vaguely familiar with John Eldridge, but not a lot. We believe this podcast will help you dive deeper into God's word, understand that the gospel is great news for everyday life, not just when viewed in the . They operate Random heart ministries. I got a notification from a lovely lady who said in her comment shed like to have coffee with me and that she had been in ministry 36 years like to point out false teachers. It is the process given for removing the unrepentant from the Body. Lisa Harper Books | List of books by author Lisa Harper Books by Lisa Harper A Perfect Mess: Why You Don't Have to Worry About Being Good Enough for God Lisa Harper $ 4.89 - $ 5.89 Job - Bible Study Book: A Story of Unlikely Joy Lisa Harper $ 6.49 The Sacrament of Happy: What a Smiling God Brings to a Wounded World Lisa Harper $ 4.19 - $ 16.86 I have gotten used to most of the comments on this post being derogatory and upset with me for daring to call out false teaching. If you want to read more I highly recommend this article from Got Questions: https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-tax-collectors.html. Sort by. While she does not appear to be officially named as a "pastor" at Elevation Church, she certainly functions in this role as she regularly fills the pulpit and preaches to mixed audiences. Lisa Harper is a respected Bible teacher and popular public speaker who addresses audiences at events and churches all over the world. Various men came in and out of her family over the next two years. If you read my article and watched the clip that is included, youll see that yes, she did read and teach from the Bible. But There are so many issues with this clip besides the main Matthew 18 debacle its hard to count. Sort by: Relevance Filter. Hi Virginia. Too many opinions, not enough Truth! I feel sorry for her because she had a very terrible childhood and it continued to her college days and sadly it is still with her to this day. But so does Joel Osteen. Who would you recommend as sound women teachers? The other view is they know what will be presented and are coming to satisfy their desires. The Bible says MUCH about how the Jews felt about tax collectors. Opened it and read directly from a clearly used bible. I want so much more for us than to be swept up by bible teachers who dont have any sort of firm grasp of scripture, yet millions are flocking to stadiums to see them on the national platforms of the womens conference speaking circuit. It doesnt apply to people who are in public ministries. I truly pray you will take my suggestions and not follow anyone based on how they make you feel. Take notes. Though shes thankful for the conversations taking place in the #MeToo era, Harper said it grieves her to see many women are not running to God but are instead being fueled by an embittered culture. Lisa Harper is a famous American Author and Speaker. ( counter to the word of God ) Thats 3 strikes against her in only the first minute. Its speaking as a given fact that we automatically love ourselves, and we should love our neighbor as much as we think about ourselves. Over the decades, it has defined a distinctive style that pays homage to the Roman roots of the company. If they are preaching the truth that is wonderful, but if they preach heresy, we need to warn others so they arent led astray by them. I gave much more evidence than just the video to prove that she is a false teacher, including that she is disobedient to scripture by preaching to men, as well as consistently associating with other known false teachers. We are taught in scripture to deny ourselves. In your eyes Id like to know this. If I didnt catch it I must have been concentrating on something else! I gave lots of reasons why Lisa Harper is to be considered a false teacher, including video of her terrible mishandling of scripture. Thank you for your courage in posting about speakers such as this, Robin. Jesus came to earth to save people from their sin. Yes! Lisa Harper Harper says after the death of her step-father, being diagnosed with skin cancer herself, and going through a bout of depression, she began to attend counseling. My heart aches when I see ladies who love the Lord being drawn into false teaching by a smooth-talking she-wolf who is funny, charming, and can have her 10,000 member audience eating out of her hand. Its not popular to say this, but many women are making idols out of these teachers and making themselves their own god because they ignore what scripture clearly says. Lisa Harper (@lisadharper) / Twitter Lisa Harper @lisadharper Adopted a precious punkin' from Haiti named Missy in April '14 who has hijacked my heart! Blessings in Christ, Walking Away From Tradition Toward Truth - And Knowing The Difference. Im dont think Ill be finishing her book. Shes so serious about scripture. I had never heard of her before. So far, none of the comments Ive received have given anything but feelings-based reasons about why Im wrong. You were so correct. Supreme Court justices raise concerns about Biden's ability March 1, 2023 When scripture tells us to love our neighbor as ourselves, it isnt saying that loving ourselves is a good thing. Publisher. For one thing, Lisa Harper is not surrounded by people with sound doctrine. Watch below: Besides the fact that this is excruciating to listen to, does this sound like someone with a Masters in Theology? And let me know if you think Ive gotten it wrong!I am saddened at the apathy and lack of biblical literacy in the Church today. If you think calling out false teachers is sowing discord, then you may not be the biggest fan of the apostle Paul. Before long, I came to full repentance for my involvement in attending and taking women to these events. 12But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. I never listened to him again, because God is first, and if everyone studied the scriptures for themselves ( not just read) they would have enough discernment to recognize a false teacher. Hi Jade! Are you familiar with Michelle Lesley?? BLACKPINK Lisa exuded a chic and mysterious charm in a Hong Kong magazine pictorial. I used to LOVE to attend events like Women of Faith. She has also made appearances on Life Today with popular Word of Faith hosts James and Betty Robison. I couldnt finish session 3 from it. That is dangerous territory. But look with fresh eyes at what shes actually saying. Jesus is holy and righteous and hates sin. Thank you so much for shedding light on Lisa Harper. This is not something I would have expected. But I still feel I need to speak out if I can keep anyone from falling into error. It has NEVER meant to welcome them and give them affirmation. Finally I got to the point where I cared more about truth than being right about my favorite teachers. I want to always back up what I say with reliable sources. First, make sure you love the Lord enough enough so that youre REALLY concerned about the souls of othersuntil your only goal is telling the Truth and then please learn what that is before you speak. I went to my very first Womans conference this weekend. Courage and commitment. If moved to honor her memory kindly . Lancaster, PA 17601, Streamed at all Victory locations I might add this Why are these women (false) teachers so annoying. Or at the very least think, I need to go look that up and see if that is right! My pastor husband ALWAYS tells our congregation, Dont just believe what I say. I wont comment on the clip at all on whether I agree or disagree. And for that I am really grateful! Lisa M. Harper is a businessperson who has been the head of 6 different companies and presently holds the position of Chief Executive Officer of Belk Stores Services LLC and Chief Executive Officer & Director at Torrid Holdings, Inc. She is also on the board of Belk, Inc. (former Executive Chairman). It was the most boring, unproductive bible study Ive ever attended. WHAT WE BELIEVE MATTERS. I can say I have been following Lisa Harpers ministry for probably over 10 years now and have listened to hundreds of her messages, read most of her books, listened to her podcast, and I have never found anything that she says to be counter to the Word of God. She doesnt have a testimony of how she found peace in life because simply she doesnt have it yet. She always has drawn me closer to Jesus. Summary. These bible teachers are masterful at eliciting emotions and giving women all the feels. But that isnt what scripture says. She is not saying that anything should go in the church. linktr.ee/lisadharper Posts Reels Videos Tagged Featured Authors: Lisa Harper. Far be it from me to criticize your blog. Hi Robin, Your research will help me to be strong if I am questioned by my sisters in this ladies group. Our Price $8.99 Retail: Retail Price $12.99 Save 31% ($4.00) . It is our EVERYTHING. Jana Novotn (Czech pronunciation: [jana novotna]; 2 October 1968 - 19 November 2017) was a Czech professional tennis player. From looking some into her life as an adopted mom, author, and speaker, I think she is pretty stinking solid (at least from the outside looking in). I couldnt listen to her for 5 minutes. A master storyteller and sought-after Bible teacher and author known for her authenticity, Lisa Harper's writing and speaking overflows with colorful pop culture references that connect the dots between the Bible and modern life. Please dont put that false label on me as it is bearing false witness. Question: familiar with John Eldredges ministry and his wife? Be blessed! A popular Bible teacher, Lisa speaks nationwide at retreats and . Dont be taken in by the bible verses on the girly mugs and t-shirts. T.D. Sep 2021 - Present1 year 6 months. 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