The notion of frontier inner frontiers, outer frontiers weaves through this hour. Before the dogs chain. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. So in The Carrying, there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. Limn: Yeah. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. We nurture virtues that build muscle memory towards sustained new realities including generous listening, embodied presence, and transformative relationship across backgrounds and lived experience. I mean, I do right now. Yeah. Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Ada Limn reads her poem, "Dead Stars.". when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long., And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. And poetry, and poetry. And I want you to read it. Where being at ease is not okay. The conversation that resulted with the Jewish-Buddhist teacher and psychotherapist Sylvia Boorstein has been a companion to her and to many from that day forward. 1. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. We can forget this. But I love it. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. Tippett: So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. Thats such a wonderful question. Draco, Lacerta, Hydra, Lyra, Lynx. Return like a word, long forgotten and maligned. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. And its page six of The Hurting Kind. [laughter] Sometimes its just staring out the window. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. Limn: Yeah. Limn: Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. It wasnt used as a tool. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. We havent read much from The Carrying, which is a wonderful book. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. If you are here, you are likely already part of this. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. On Being Studios's tracks [Unedited] Ocean Vuong with Krista Tippett by On Being Studios not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. . I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. I just saw her. I could. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over. Youll see why in a minute. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, Enough of us across all of our differences see that we have a world to remake. was like that. into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. I never go there very much anymore. Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. So its a very special place. I am a hearth of spiders these days: a nest of trying. Anthem. And I think there was this moment where I was like, Oh, Im just sort of living to see what happens next. And the grief is also giving me a reason to get up. And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. Groundbreaking Peabody Award-winning conversation about the big questions of meaning, hosted by Krista Tippett. Limn: Yeah. Page 20. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. With. It suddenly just falls apart [laughter], Limn: and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. This conversation shines a light on an emerging ecosystem in our world over and against the drumbeat of what is fractured and breaking: working with the complex fullness of reality, and cultivating old and new ways of seeing, to move towards a transformative wholeness of living. Special thanks this week to Daniel Slager, Yanna Demkiewicz, and Katie Hill at Milkweed Editions. We practice moral imagination; we embrace paradoxical curiosity; we sit with conflict and complexity; we create openings instead of seeking answers or providing reductive simplicity. Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. Tippett: And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. What would happen if we used our bodies to bargain. Yeah. This is a gift. And that reframing was really important to me. until every part of it is run through with I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. So we have to do this another time. the collar, constriction of living. Tippett: I have your books, and theres some, too. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . is so bright and determined like a flame, I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. Nov 28, 2022. We hold each other. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big This definitely speaks to that. Its a prose poem. We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full, of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising, to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. Shes written six books of poetry, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume, . For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. And what of the stanzas, we never sing, the third that mentions no refuge, could save the hireling and the slave? Yeah. And I found it really useful, a really useful tool to go back in and start to think about what was just no longer true, or maybe had never been true. Sylvia gifts us this teaching: that nurturing childrens inner lives can be woven into the fabric of our days and that nurturing ourselves is also good for the children and everyone else in our lives. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. @KristaTippett is the host of @OnBeing podcast and a NYTimes bestselling author. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. Limn: There was a bit of like, Eww, lover. [laughter], Easy light storms in through the window, soft I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. And this particular poem was written after the 2017 fires in my home valley of Sonoma. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. Youre very young. but witnessed. Sometimes its just staring out the window. of thee, enough of bosom and bud, skin and god I have a lot of poems that basically are that. So Im hoping. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. Before the ceramics in the garbage. the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost two brains now. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. On Being with Krista Tippett is about focusing on the immensity of our lives. Stood for the many mute mouths of the sea, of the land? So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. And so I gave up on it. I think thats very true. Tippett: Look at all these people. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, brought to its knees, clung to by someone who. I write. We havent read much from, , which is a wonderful book. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Krista Tippett (2) Rsultats tris par. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-, fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body, thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant, in the ground, under the feast up above. And to feel that moment of everyone recognizing what it is to kind of look out for one another and have to do that in the antithesis of who we are, which was to separate. But I think theres so much in this poem thats about that idea that the thesis thats returned to the river. Come back, No, really I was. Join these two friends and interpreters of the human condition for . Yeah, Ive got a lot of feelings moving through me. [Laughter] I feel like I could hear that response, right? And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine., Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. Tippett: So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. Okay. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. Yeah. that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving a breaking open, a breaking Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels, We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out. In her Peabody-award winning public radio show and podcast, On Being, Krista Tippett provides a space for deep and meaningful conversations with profound thi. We touch each other. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. I love that you do this. And I think there was a part of me that felt like so much of what I had read up until then was meant to instruct or was meant to offer wisdom. And I remember sitting on my sofa where I spent an inordinate amount of time, and reading it. Editor's note: This Q&A has been adapted from the podcast "Interfaith America with Eboo Patel.". rolling their trash bins out, after all of this is over? Our conversations create openings. Or, Im suffering, or Right. [Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating]. But in the present era of tribalism, it feels like weve reached our collective limitations Again and again, we have escalated the conflict and snuffed the complexity out of the conversation.. On Being with Krista Tippett | 5 minute podcast summaries on Apple . Krista Tippett (ne Weedman; born November 9, 1960) is an American journalist, author, and entrepreneur. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? On Being, which began on public radio, has been named a best podcast by The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, the Webbys, iHeart Radio with more than 400 million downloads. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt, and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. And it sounds like thunder? She loves human beings. She is a former host of the poetry podcast. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. We meet longings for justice and healing by equipping for reflection, repair, and joy. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. Tippett: Yeah. Perhaps [laughs] And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. to pick with whoever is in charge. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. Limn: And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is? [laughter] Im like, Yes. Oh, thank you. I love it. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? Wilkerson, winner of the Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal, has become a leading figure in narrative nonfiction with The Warmth of Other Suns and Caste. Yeah. So its actually about fostering yourself in the sun, in the right place, creating the right habitat. And I think its in that category. Helping to build a more just, equitable and connected America one creative act at a time. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. Yeah. could save the hireling and the slave? We orient away from the closure of fear and towards the opening of curiosity. Kalliopeia Foundation. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels Too high for most of us with the rockets Between. Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. And I remember sitting on my sofa where I spent an inordinate amount of time, and reading it. Few books have been more eagerly passed from hand to hand with delight in these last years than Robin Wall Kimmerers Braiding Sweetgrass. Before the divorce. So I want to do two more, also from. body. Limn: And to feel that moment of everyone recognizing what it is to kind of look out for one another and have to do that in the antithesis of who we are, which was to separate. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. 10 distinct works Similar authors. We inhabit a liminal time between what we thought we knew and what we cant quite yet see. And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. Free shipping for many products! Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. Join our constellation of listening and living. This might be hard for some of you right here. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. Limn: Yes. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. Krista Tippett is the creator and host of the On Being and Becoming Wise podcasts as well as curator of The Civil Conversations Project. Tippett: It also says something about this time. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . You should take a nap. [laughter] I know its cruel. They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. Thats how this machine works. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., Limn: I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. Shes teaching me a lesson. Learn more at. And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, , I dont want you to witness my body. All right. Tippett: Right. Page 87. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. And is it okay for me to spend time looking at this tree? An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. Subscribe to the live your best life newsletter Sign up for the oprah.com live your best life newsletter Get more stories like this delivered to your inbox Get updates on your favorite . Theres this poem which Ive never heard anybody ask you to read called Where the Circles Overlap, Tippett: In The Hurting Kind. And I was feeling very isolated. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. Im learning so many different ways to be quiet. Its wonderful. Only my head is for you. and gloss. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. that thered be nothing left in you, like The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. Im Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. We read for sense. The phrase mental health itself makes less and less sense in light of the wild interactivity we can now see between what weve falsely compartmentalized as physical, emotional, mental, even spiritual. for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam, What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. Limn: Yeah. In me, a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. Tippett: I love that. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright, I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. No shoes and a glossy In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful . Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. what you would miss. Weve come this far, survived this much. We have never been exiled. The On Being Project Theres shower silent and bath silent and California silent and Kentucky silent and car silent and then theres a silence that comes back, a million times bigger than me, sneaks into my bones and wails and wails and wails until I cant be quiet anymore. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. And so I have. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. Limn: Exactly. Many of us were having different experiences. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. Two entirely different brains. creeks, two highways, two stepparents What follows is the transcript of an On Being interview between Krista Tippett and Andrew Solomon, Parker Palmer and Anita Barrows. Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? Oh my. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. Tippett: And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of On Being, its woven through everything. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue just the bottlebrush alive And were you writing. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). So, On Preparing the Body for a Reopened World.. I think thats something we didnt know how to talk about. This is a moving and edifying conversation that is also, not surprisingly, a lot of fun. its like staring into an original Tippett: this is how vitality looks like. Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. would happen if we decided to survive more? Theres how I dont answer the phone, and how I sometimes like to lie down on the floor in the kitchen and pretend Im not home when people knock. We are fluent in the story of our time marked by catastrophe and dysfunction. Henno Road, creek just below, by being seen. Limn: Yeah. Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. This is not a problem. Weve come this far, survived this much. I will say this poem began I was telling you how poems begin and sometimes with sounds, sometimes with images This was a sound of, you know when everyone rolls out their recycling at the same time. and buried, I go about my day, which isnt, ordinary, exactly, because nothing is ordinary Thats really hard. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. We honor poets and poetry as necessary companions in mustering words spacious and generous enough to reach across the mystery of ourselves and the mystery of each other. 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