>Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. He did not know who she was: she was wearinga mask. A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad He didn't recognise her voice. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing this," Mandy says, "Ya." Technology has caught up with his disguises andcovers. And the redeemer's pubic hair is also trimmed the same. Bill is ushered to a crowded room and unmasked by the master of ceremonies. This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. (2) With AT&T recently announcing that they will dump almost all of their public pay phones, where can he change? > People often don't make definitive connections between things at the > moment. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. Statanic mass? If the woman in the mask had been the same woman as Mandy, you would have expected some recognition of that from Doctor Cruise. The lower part is made of paper-mache, while the upper one The official cause of death was from a heart attack. >> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was> showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. 0. >>>>>>>>> And even if it was clear, even if he had> referred directly to the events of the night before as the (Somerton)> party, it would still be uncertain, because>> 1. But maybe he's just practicing forhis Boddhisatva qualification tests.- you know, the 'enlightening thegreat unwashed masses' thing. I recognized the voice of the mysterious woman first time I saw the film. I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. > The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy > all along, If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? The Redeemer's voice does sound alot like Mandy's voice, both with a hint of a New York accent. andpleading with her to take off her mask? Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? > Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. It is as if he Wanted, as if hedesired, compelled, it to be so again, its at two - simultaneousbut contradictory - levels (as ALWAYS in many of Kubrick's films -like in The Shining: are the spectral ghosts 'real' or is Jack etcimagining them? > Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in a> depressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethal> drug overdose. The goal of yoga practice was to STOP all that useless babble---because that is how a person actually makes the breakthrough to see reality as it is. In contrast, why does the masked woman seeminglyalready know much more than they do? But he can't know for sure (because she wasmasked at Somerton). Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let the> women there know that there was an interloper? <<<<<<<<. Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. S he was the same woman who overdosed at Victor Ziegler's party earlier in the movie. You're coming across as yet another FUCKING TROLL!! Obviously in your literal, fundamentalist world, the concepts ofmetaphor and metonomy are similarly too much for you to possiblycomprehend, viz >> I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you mean,> but the way you're saying it is silly. Lets look at the basic plot of this film. No comments. Like much of the director's work like The Shining, movie fans love to debate the symbolism and meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. ANSWER. -- Steven L.Email: sdli@earthlinkNOSPAM.netRemove the NOSPAM before replying to me. Congratulations. It iscertainly distinctly possible that the woman at the party is otherthan the woman at the Somerton ritual, though the former does appearto be the Mandy that ends up in the morgue (she never made it to'rehab', as Dr Bill had suggested but never bothered following up,just later shunted home by Ziegler's heavies); remember, we only haveZiegler's explanation/confirmation that they are the same 'Mandy',hardly a reliable witness given his contradictory assertionsthroughout the film. Orgy? >>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? One intriguing reading of the Eyes Wide Shutmask being on the pillow is that it's only in Bill's head as if he's exhausted by trying to hide his attempts at infidelity or true feelings from Alice, leading to an emotional breakdown. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? Put on some headphones and listen. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. Let him go! > Mandy was not the same woman. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing > this," Mandy says, "Ya." i'm sure he knew that aaudiences would be sophisticated enough toexamine the bodies as bill is doing in the morgue. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. He only ultimately acceptsZiegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). The point, however, is that even if all three female> 'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the same> character), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not to> mention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world."<<<<<<<<<<>. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. Let's get out of here.You're my witness. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. > > On Jan 11, 6:50 am, dumb_n00b
wrote: > > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. In Eyes Wide Shut, Abigail Good plays a `Mysterious Woman'. >>>>>>>>>If this were really the> case, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to the> masked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) thiswould 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? And the Somerton ritual is alsoambiguous; how, or rather why, for instance, does the masked womanupon first meeting the masked Bill, assert with such certainty that"You shouldn't be here", then followed by repeated warnings that hiscontinued presence at the ritual will get him in trouble? 20 years ago today, the final masterpiece from the late, great Stanley Kubrick arrived in theaters. >>Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >>see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >>together.>, > These last points I've already covered>. What a joke to call them "philosophers." "anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? If those 2-3 women were supposed to be the same woman, Kubrick would, I thought this film was much less interesting than the competing film, In rec.arts.movies.past-films Kelpzoidzl <, In rec.arts.movies.past-films Harry Bailey <, On Feb 26, 3:27pm, "Avoid normal situations. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any way. > The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as > though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be > confused.>, > 2. Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. <<<<<<<<<> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? Rather, he> is beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the masked> woman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her up> close in the morgue. But examine the frame showing the overhead shot in the morgue, with all the shots of Mandy in the bathroom. The second half of Eyes Wide Shut sees Bill being given ominous warnings from this secret society, and he can't seem to find his mask from the party. Somerton could hardly be described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.' People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. Even Ziegler only uses that wordin reference to his own earlier party, while referring to the Somertonrituals always more elusively: "I was there, at the House", "what ifwhat happened was a fake, a charade", etc, but no mention of any'party' at Somerton. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The Desire is always Other. >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. In fact, the only actual dream in the film is unseen, is onlylater described - namely, Alice's dream/nightmare about having sexwith numerous men (strikingly similar to the fate of the women atSomerton) in which Bill is openly humiliated, and told to Bill justafer he returns from Somerton. In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. Many of the nude women begin pairing up with the fully-clothed men, and the orgy begins in nearly full view. I am normally the last guy in the, > world to criticize somebody for using big words. <<<<<<<<<<<<<. >>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? Poor pitiful morons that we all are -thank Bog he's put off Nirvana for so long. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, > etc. I actually had to look that up. He is not exactly > voicing his thoughts. People were dancing, there was music wearing costumes, and although it was strange, calling it a "party," would not be unusual in the slightest. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I > know.". Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. Please either stop orshape up. So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes? Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. > But the credits have Abigail Good as> "mysterious woman" and Julienne Davis as Mandy. ---people with no idea of the futility and silliness of counting endless grains of sands, with their mental masturbations and perserverations. Weve got a beautiful feminine version of the lead mask that features a baroque pattern and crystal embellishments, as well as a feathered mask similar to the Why would he demand that she take offher mask if this were so? Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. I think this feeling of guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. A part-time hobby soon blossomed into a career when he discovered he really loved writing about movies, TV and video games; he even (arguably) had a little bit of talent for it. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. The main point, was that that kind of mental approach to things, is actually the biggest impediment to focusing the mind. These ceremonies must have been a big customenr for his former patient. > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film audience. The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. Well thats all true, but of course that was SK making a masterpiece and one of the most amazing films ever made IMO. In the bathroom scene, there is no way to tell if Mandy has that freckle, because of her slouched position, which also makes it hard to tell her height in relation to Bill. Bill is, after all, wearing a mask; not only that, butthe Mandy who was in Ziegler's bathroom the night before was 1. sodrugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling), Ziegler doing all the talking and explaining. Statanic mass? Somerton could hardly be > >>>>>> described (and. Perhaps itwould have worked better if there had been a photo in the newsarticle. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simplybecause of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member ofthe power elite? Next: The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. It was a > party nevertheless. (1) As more people opt for lasik surgery, he will not be able to hide behind those specs. while walking down one of the NY streets, the background glowsbeautifucally. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. He may literally have to go underground, or to the moon, etc. The film revolves around the tension between these twophenomena; it is about this tension): 1. desiring Amanda Curran to bethe Mandy from Ziegler's party would confirm his guilt - in hisprofessional capacity as a doctor attending a patient in need - aboutleaving her fate in the hands of Ziegler, serving power rather thanmorality or medical ethics, a guilt he now seeks to redress byimmediately going to visit Amanda/Mandy at the hospital to try andredeem himself; and 2. desiring Amanda to be the masked woman, a womanwho seemingly redeems Bill's Somerton-crashing guilt for him via theSomerton 'charade.'. Tom Cruise in the Masked Ball ritual scene from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut with Jocelyn Pook's haunting score filling the temple. Masks - both literal and figurative - are a major motif, and one of the most important sequences is when Bill infiltrates a masked sex party at a remote mansion, which is being held by members of high society. And how does Bill know that a cape and a mask was appropriate attire? In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is) on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. Eyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubrick's final movie starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, but what does the mask on the pillow near the end mean? we talked about this about 8 years ago on this newsgroup . The second, and more terrifying suggestion, is the mask is a final warning from the secret society for Bill to drop any further investigation or the fate that befell the woman who saved him could be visited upon Alice. He wasn't positive. If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? I never said Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when > we study it. It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually know> about Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask > <<<<<<<<<<<<. Amazing. Was she the women at the party?" So check out Mandy's Wink on the slab---it's very fast, but it is there:), Yeah but he used the same actor for different roles in Dr Strangeloveand in some scenes of Eyes Wide Shut he has Cruise on a treadmillagainst a blue screen using real photography of NYC behind him, thenin the next scene Cruise is filmed against a set in england. > If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. They paid off the desk cleark to tell Bill, that Nick was being roughed up, or perhaps the clerk is one of those men dancing with men at the ceremony/orgy and in fact Mandy, although on the slab was not really dead. I think the voice would have rung a bell and the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so he was in shock. Orgy? Somerton could hardly be >>>>>> described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. There's also search enginessuch as Google where you can search for information. that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler). Please either stop > or> shape up. I recognized the voice of the > mysterious woman first time I saw the film.>>, >> it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" 2. We could say that even Nick was in on it and the phone call to Nick in the Jazz club was a set up to pique Bill's interest, even letting Bill knows the password. EWS was potential. Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? --Napoleon. (and i'm sure that doesn't even begin to label them in full) They were nutcases. I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite a few notches below EWS. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would > she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it?>> Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here. Bill Harford doesn't really showmuch recognition in th emorgue scene. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. >>In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is)>, > So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figure> on the basis of his eyes?<<<<<<<<<<<<, > This is simple. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film's> critics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,> desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidy> denouement? And you bring up anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? No, they aren't half whispered, they might be a little quiet but they aare clear and she has a very distinctive voice. If it'ssupposed to be obvious, then why is it treated as such a great revelation,and why is a character who is presented as being reasonably intelligentso dense as not to see it? >He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. Not only are they the REAL "anti-intellectuals," they were schizoid as hell and projected it onto the social mess, creating political gibberish, that has NO usefulness to anyone. Yes, the uncertainty about the identities of the women is Structuralto the film's splintered narrative. and she >> replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," >> Mandy says, "I know." Before warning him, the You saw her volunteer to sacrifice herself so the orgy managers would let Doctor Cruise go free. Eyes Wide Shut cast Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as a married couple, with the former playing a doctor who goes on a strange, sexually charged journey one night when his wife admits to having had adulterous thoughts. > not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using > them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing. When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. 1. He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. news:47897d0b$0$5129$4c36@roadrunner.com > Harry writes: (seen on google)>> >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense >> >>> of>>> anything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligible >> mumbling),<<<>, >> No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare >> kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" It seems evident that Kubrick carefully selected the Rothschild-owned location and hand-picked the masks worn by participants of the ritual, echoing real-life families and events. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to > all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. ME> Again. > Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is another > mystery. There's like a billion posts here at alt.movies.kubrick and you cansearch the archives for this information. The woman who had tried to warn Bill intervenes and insists on redeeming him, at an undisclosed personal cost. I don't think there were any other dreams, although the redpool table scene always seemed the most dreamlike to me. As though testing how well Bill's implanted suggestions had taken..????? orpsychotherapists. I think the voice would have rung a bell and > the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course > seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so > he was in shock. The lost of public phones booths will kill off Superman, Dr. Who, and Colin Farrell roles. How manypayments of $19.99 was that, again?-- "History is a lie agreed upon." He had no reason to think Zeigler was at Somerton, till Zeigler tells him. Orgy? If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. Carolin Ruwe, in her book Symbols in Stanley Kubrick's Movie 'Eyes Wide Shut', argues that the mask is the prime symbol of the film. Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? Take another listen. that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler)", Ditto. ". But then, Ziegler's 'explanation', his retconningof past events, only serves to further propel Bill into subjectivedestitution, another 'replay' of Bill's unmasking at Somerton, Zieglerpower-presiding over Bill's position and status at a red pool-tablemuch like Red Cloak presided over the power ritual on a red carpet atSomerton. To take Tess or Barry Lyndon in the same context is perhaps moreappropriate to various periods stylistically divergent from an intentor device for Picasso to depict women;- a later advancement thatneedn't further qualification than figures posed in gold, as was aliteral premium exacted upon proceeds, so written by one later model,over stipends derived from the estate. [Some irrelevant pseudo-Buddhist gibberish snipped]. And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. It's just idiotic. Somerton could hardly be >> >>>>>> described (and>, >> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. >>>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone accept> anything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman> (or women) as "a hooker. (Just like we dream alone, even if we're in bed with someone else.). > that unless they are encoded in single frames for analysis will alwasy be > a mystery. 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