I do not see Traveller ships on there anywhere. Cubed square law means the bigger the structure the exponentially weaker it becomes. (These vessels fall into the WarShip category for technical reasons, but are not intended to be used as combat vessels. Does anyone know if there is a chart or table or something somewhere that lists the height of each mech in meters? However, CGL reverted to paper maps by 2018 for cost reasons.[6]. This gave room for the pilot to ride in the torso while still allowing ample space for weapons. Plus the Soviets have long proved that there are ways to pack people tighter into vehicles than the US army does it. Smoke Jaguar scientists found that if something wasn't done soon, their Clan worlds would soon be stripped of the ores needed for BattleMech production. up until the first edition of Map Set 2) the BattleTech maps were printed on thick cardboard similar to the maps included with the BattleTech 2nd Edition and CityTech boxed sets.Starting with the second edition of Map Set 2 (1991) and the BattleTech, Third Edition (1992) boxed set, maps were printed on thinner paper. 1:285 (6mm people size) works great for Battletech, though the Kickstarter appears to be shooting for something slightly bigger now. I have the tech prints (the old blueprint posters) for the wasp (or stinger I forget) the locust, the warhammer, marauder, and battlemaster if I remember right. A HumVee is as heavy and big as a tank!" Yes, a Battletech PPC can vaporize 0.66 tons of armor. There are fifteen columns, 01XX through 15XX, and there are nominally 17 rows, XX01 through XX17. The game can be played on essentially any terrain. For Classic Battletech, I think most "standard" games use Battle Value 2 (BV2). In BattleTech, spacegoing WarShips are often classified with the following terms, based on their role. I would Pick the Atlas in what Ever Program you using to get the Images from for scaling if it give you a Volume amount for the Model Scale all the other Model up and down until they Match the the Atlas Tonnage to Volume Ratio. Is this true? German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech II" (see below). Press J to jump to the feed. That said, I've mostly seen references to 6mm scale in battletech forums and websites selling battletech terrain. It's your world. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. My dad has recently gotten me into Battletech and we are planning a full scale campaign. If so, does anyone have examples on hand for comparison. The "Open Terrain #1" map was identical to the "Open Terrain" map previously published in the first Map Set, albeit printed on paper instead of cardboard. ProtoMech armor is more efficient in terms of its weight-to-protection ratio compared to 'Mech armor due to the reduced surface areas involved and advanced composite material used in its construction; the heaviest ProtoMechs can boast almost as much protection as some light 'Mechs. Im mostly interested in the 3039 era mechs. They can look very good, but tend to be pricey. I'm assuming you mean the WizKids "Clix" versions and the IWM versions? I guess thats what happens when you use nukes for homecoming gifts. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on aerospace, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. The average 'mech height, according to the Battletech fluff, is 10 meters. [1], This basic mapsheet, two of which are included in each boxed set, is a standardized size and has an addressing scheme printed on the map in a staggered row and column format. The guy specifically asked for maps, not for instruction on not using them. Space Pirate Captain Haarlock. The Luthien from 1993 included a loose double-sided map. Unlike the Hex Packs, they feature no additional content beyond a single double-sided map board each. Of course CBT has never been about scale really but using the Clix as CBT probably wouldn't be too good of an idea. When there is, the CGLs tend to run a little larger. The beginner boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game map, with maps called Grasslands #1 (Side A) and Desert #1 (Side B). I love this infographic. The Atlas is (If I recall correctly) about 11 or 12 meters in height and is one of the taller 'mechs. Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. The hyphen that was sometimes used in older German TRO titles (e.g. Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time. ProtoMechs can carry most of the same weapons and equipment as found on 'Mechs, although instead of carrying standard missile launchers they mount groups of missile tubes together. The big jump was from PGI for MWO, and this game uses those models with a x1.25 modifier on their size. Blood Spirit ProtoMech Hydra with the pilot. The figures are generally too large to fit into standard sized hexes though. However, this will give you just one (albeit large) map. At the same time, Smoke Jaguar geneticists began the task of creating a suitable breed of pilot. It's a gator with a nuke, whats the problem. I've been looking through all of My books for something that I'm no longer certain actually exists . Most of the neoprene/vinyl battle mat companies can put a 1.25 or 1.75 hex overlay on any of their mats, and generally can be had in 4'x4', 4'x6' and sometimes 4'x8' sizes. Someone must've put a ton of time into this with how many ships are represented on here. It's amazing how many fandoms are represented. I've never seen one of these with Battletech on it! when just looking at the two together you know it's not true. it's a bit comforting knowing that to fire we're a same color- flammable. Like battle armor and 'Mechs, Protos can mount jump jets which further increases maneuverability. Hardware-Handbuch 3031) was completely left out in this.The German version is printed as DIN A4, a standard European paper size . It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. The physical maps are thick cardboard maps akin to those from the latest boxed sets and Hex Packs, with one of the classic game maps printed on either side. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on unusual biomes, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided BattleMats. Download the BattleTech Advanced 3062 Installer from the link provided above. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Somewhere between dawdle and a Leviathan full of overkill. 2. add battletech folder to exclusion list for windows defender. *shrug* I never took mini's scale that seriously. Per pg20 Total Warfare, 'Mechs "stand eight to fourteen meters tall". Typically, two mapsheets would be included with every boxed set. So now enter the "General Size Comparison Chart" from Technical Readout: 3039 (2009), that's pretty recent. BattleTech MegaMat Display at Gen Con 2021. The French gaming magazine Casus Belli, who had ties to the official publisher of the French edition of BattleTech (Jeux Descartes), published a BattleTech map in 1994 that is copyrighted to the magazine, but matches the style found in other BattleTech maps. I just finished my 8th one, and I'm considering giving 2in hexes a try. Some hobbyists love to build giant terrains where even 1/100 scale mechs would look relatively small. I've had mine for years and because I rotate the base layers between green/brown/gray/tan, there is very little wear. Your BattleTech News Roundup For January, 2023, Your BattleTech News Roundup For December, 2022, https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=ProtoMech&oldid=911494. The four of them together form the tournament map. Meaning, you won't even see them if they walk around in downtown Manhattan. [7], Grassland A BattleMat Foothills #2 Rolling Hills #4, Grassland B BattleMat Forward Base Open Terrain #2, Grassland C BattleMat Rolling Hills #3 Foothills #1, Grassland D BattleMat Open Terrain #3 Streams, Grassland E BattleMat Lakes River CommCenter. (Where if we present human can figure out buildings 40-50 stories easy, future human must have like hundred stories buildings . In the wake of the Dig, Defend, or Die 2018 Worldwide Event, a series of related PDF products was released by CGL that included the scenario's Terrain Set of four newly created maps under the "Map Pack" moniker. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Although the MechWarrior: Dark Age clix game was designed as a miniatures game forgoing gaming maps in favor of miniature terrain, WizKids produced a number of mapsheets with the usual hex grid for various Solaris VII arenas. The PDF-only Touring the Stars: Noisiel contains six printable maps and rule expansions to play the Mech games that make Noisiel famous for their Summer Games. A lot of the heights are derived from their Mecha inspirations out of anime. JavaScript is disabled. Clix is played on N scale 1:160~ where a 1/16th of an inch is a scale foot. Several hex maps have been released for various arenas on Solaris VII. Beyond the aforementioned classes, Strategic Operations, page 10, establishes a distinction between Large WarShips and Small WarShips, with the latter defined as any vessel smaller than 750,000 tons. [6][7][8] When the BMR said Mechs averaged between 10 and 12 meters, I strongly took them at their word, meaning only a handful of designs broke the mold. Most Protos have a "main gun", a single weapon or piece of equipment of any weight which is braced to the torso but aimed and fired with their hands. Not sure if the game is still made, I believe it isn't, but you can find the terrain on the second hand market (like Ebay). BATTLETECH. Not all mechs are the same. German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech I" (see below). In the classic BattleTech board game, as well as in most other games set in the BattleTech universe, the main gameplay takes place on a mapsheet with hexagonal playing fields. In addition, there are a number of monikers that arguably fall between class and role definitions. [4] Other "volunteers" were obtained by a Trial of Possession with Clan Jade Falcon, where the Jaguars won and adopted several solahma aerospace pilots. Conversely, some Renegade Legion products contain mapsheets that were never officially published for BattleTech, but can be used for BattleTech nonetheless. [2] Under AeroTech rules, each hex on the low altitude map corresponds with a mapsheet at the ground level. EDIT: Just noticed above the BattleTech ships are the ships from freakin' WALL-E! So I guess the answer is 1:285 (6mm) is "considered" default but the other two are likely to work. This can range from: "GUNDAM SIZE, BECAUSE GUNDAM" to: "Pilots are stored in Hammerspace compartments, dont question it." HA1-0F 2nd Donegal Guards Like the preceding MapPacks, but unlike Mappack: Solaris VII, it is a purely digital product. According to Strategic Operations, page 10, WarShip classes are roughly defined as follows: Other subclasses or designations exist, such as "troop cruiser" or "pursuit cruiser", though they can usually be placed in one of the above classes. Lucky I found this post as I was wondering the same question and I have to say that, thanks to Sigma's pics (scales generally go over my head), the size differences on some of them is mad! The printed size of a standard mapsheet is 22 inches by 18 inches (not 22 by 17 as many rulebooks suggest). The Raven and Uziel are small enough to pass muster, but most of the rest are too big. The map is marked "Casus Belli 1994 Carte conue par Michal Salicetto, dessin Bernard Bittler BATTLETECH est un jeu dit par Jeux Descartes sous licence FASA". Similarly, the mapsheets in the Solaris VII game represent only 7.5 meters of ground distance, a quarter of the scale of standard BattleTech. since the novels and the fluff also describe some as being larger and smaller than others, this is probably an average figure, not a universal one. Most of these terms have survived since the Age of Sail, and were updated to reflect the realities of space combat. FanPro product #35012, released in 2005. A map set focused on the Battle of Tukayyid, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. So comparison shots. Lyran Commonwealth,6th Donegal Guards-Nightstar. Btech scale jumps around less but tries to stay around 1:285 if it can. For more information, please see our The complete set of Solaris arena maps was also included in the free PDF product, Experimental Technical Readout: Royal Fantasy. Guerrilla raids and uprisings within their Inner Sphere occupation zone had left them stretched to the limit in resources. Some use bulkier materials, some don't. And you'll likely want additional 3d terrain to put on top. If one side has CBT minis and the other has the MWDA figs, it's going to look pretty stupid, but shouldn't affect gameplay. The thing that binds most official direct sources of height is that almost all of them are pretty old. They're Macross kits mounted on clix bases. Classic BattleTech (board game)map Original 1984 Battledroidsmap The standard mapsheet layout has remained unchanged from the original Battledroidsedition through to the latest editions, though there have been cosmetic changes. The Ishiyama map was intended to be cut in quarters and then randomly arranged each match to reflect the unknown layout of the arena. I can't cite a source, but I'm fairly certain 9.5m is way too short for a SHD. ), Your BattleTech News Roundup For January, 2023, Your BattleTech News Roundup For December, 2022, https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=WarShip_classification&oldid=937185. About 8 to 14 meters, depending on the 'Mech. They're a tad hard to come by right now due to the kickstarter but they'll be up on Catalysts webstore eventually and they have more designs coming with wave 2: https://imgur.com/a/yoSHDS3. GeoTech I, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 2), GeoTech II, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 3), GeoTech III, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 4), GeoTech IV, 1997 (German edition of Map Set 5). So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. While compatible with BattleTech map topology, the hexes on the Centurion map are printed slightly larger so that the mapsheets from the two games do not align. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon. 3. add battletech.exe process to exclusion list for windows defender. Afterwards, the line reverted to just "BattleTech". Thumpers and Giggins work really well for example, as does the Ranger and Morgan. The best "official" thing is the size chart you can find in the Technical Readout: 3039. Count the heat hawk as an axe. The A Game of Armored Combat boxed set includes two unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game maps, with maps called Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. [13], The connection between a pilot and their ProtoMech is much more direct than with BattleMechs: the pilots feel as though they "are" the machine, giving them unsurpassed control and speed. I never worry about the cannon of things until that cannon is pointed in my direction. Although the battle was ultimately lost, the ProtoMech's debut could not be ignored by the other Clans. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. The maps retained their English names, but the markings on the maps are in German. I used the blue for cutting out lakes, ponds and rivers, greens for light/heavy trees, black/gray for buildings, roads and city base layer. 'Let the poetry of darkness be written henceforth!. The K and D resculpt infantry are in true mech scale and you can compare them to DA infantry here. You'll have to upscale them. [3], However, the problem of finding suitable pilots was harder to overcome. I haven't been able to really find anything on my own so I'm turning here to see if you guys know anything that would help. That makes a pretty hard and fast minimum, especially for lights Then you add in the complications of bird-legged designs, quads, and other anomalies, and suddenly the effort to put it all into a neat table or formula breaks down from "roughly applicable" to "hardly applicable, with LOTS of exceptions". [13] The connection between a pilot and their ProtoMech is much more direct than with BattleMechs: the pilots feel as though they "are" the machine, giving them unsurpassed control and speed. Thanks. 1,471,925 C-bills Technical specifications 'Mech type Inner Sphere BattleMech Mass 30 tons Chassis Republic-R Armor Durallex Medium Engine Leenex 60 Communications System Dalban Interact Targeting Tracking System Dalban Urban Heat Sinks 11 single Speed 32 km/h Jump Jets Pitban 6000 Armament 1x AC/10 1x small laser BV (1.0) 454 BV (2.0) 504[1][2] Five additional hex maps were included. I always justify it with things like ff armor is bulkier than standard, xl engines are bulkier than standard. It will require a bit of investment though. 3. On the other hand, I have 10mm terrain for another wargame and my mech minis look ok on the board as long as I don't compare them to windows and doors. (Disregarding the autocannon for the purpose of this discussion.) A high-quality neoprene map set (34"x 22" Inches) featuring different terrain, including biomes including Desert, Luna, Alpine, Savanna and Tundra. A high-quality neoprene map set, designed for hexless Alpha Strike play, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. Recent Reviews: Very Positive (154) All Reviews: Very Positive (18,774) Release Date: Apr 24, 2018. A first, unnumbered GeoTech set was published in 1990 containing a specially produced (German) BattleTech rules booklet with excerpts from the BattleTech Manual rulebook and the Mountain Lake, Scattered Woods, Desert Hills and City Ruins maps, i.e. You gotta fit a dude in the head. "The rules technically allow all sorts of bad ideas." Posted 03 November 2016 - 09:24 AM. Note: I should really, just reformat, and report the maps to be ready to print by inked. The casting is excellent. -Moonsword. 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