The earlier Ambassadeur 5000s from the late 1950s to about mid 1971 used sequential serial numbers. Notice the post pin is slightly dome shaped while the post pin on the reproduction handle in the background is noticeably flat and is level with the paddle. These reels are still functional today; some close to 70 years later. 2. 1981: Len Brogstrom sold his remaining shares to Incentive and left ABU; after 25 years of leadership in the company. , 3. New Member. The spool had gray arbor/red flanges with red star drag and never changed. There will be 6 digits on the reel foot. 5001C was produced into the 1980s. 2nd series side plate. Today, these Swedish Art Pieces are not only used, but also collected by many worldwide. more 5178 Quantity(s) Per Purchase: 1 Carriage Screw Lock Dexterity: Right or Left Handed Country of Manufacture: Sweden Price For 1 Item: $1.35 Please look at . I need the public to come forward with other examplesso I can confirmthe serial number andthevarious parts assembled,as original. lostinthewash The brown 5500 manufactured in late 1975 and early 1976 was packaged in the last case shown. Oddly enough, I've seen several 6000's with #050701 (May '67) and #060701 (June '67) but neither change had taken place yet. This 5001C has correct beveled rim plates, but has mushroom style take down knobs which are more commonly seen on grooved rims. Any other number combinations not listed above should give you pause, as the reel may or may not be in original condition. I've tried to find it on the internet but it is very confusing. If youre not sure the frame is stamped with a serial number or lot number, try breaking down your reels 6 digit number into 3 groups of 2 numbers each. This new, red casting reel was designed with the latest high-tech features such as the Centrifugal Brakes and Star Drag. Started Thursday at 04:28 PM. The love for their Rich History and Fine Engineering Design got me into this collection. No slide clicker button but has the same clicker knob with numbers. 5000D, NUMBER ON FOOT 750401 A.B. The box was marked "5000B" with matching serial number on the box bottom. Earliest lot number I've recorded for 5000C. #100702 dates this reel to October 1967. the 5500c are fairly newer started in late 80s depending on anti revers thumb relieace position condition of covers if the left cover is smooth or has another cast control knob how well it works so on bottom $ not working parts reel $20 to 25 working but ugly $35 to 55 better the looks up to $100 if you can post pics i could nerow the year down by a couple. This AMB. in sequential order and will be either 5 or 6 digit. The Ambassadeur 1500C and 2500C described in this section refers to Small Ambassadeur reels produced from 1989 till Present (for Small Ambassadeurs produced before 1985, please refer to Classic Abu Ambassadeur, Ambassadeur 1500C & 2500C Series). Simon Shimomura's books are an excellent guide to help answer these questions and one would be wise to purchase his books. You will always use a Q-tip cleaning your parts, so use caution around the edges of your stickers. First year of production is 1977. Lot numbers for this model were available in 1971 and can be read by the second and third type date codes respectively. Living on the coast of Texas for most of my life, we had high humidity and this application worked for around two years or so before re-applying. My name is Fred and I've collected Ambassadeur reels since late 1994. ca. Between Simon and I, we hope to accomplish this through discovery of new serial numbers. Her Fine Engineering Design was an engineering marvel, setting the stage for modern casting reel design. They do not represent those of people, institutions or organizations that the website owner may or may not be associated with in professional or personal capacity, unless explicitly stated. First, clean all dirt and grease from them. Another example might be 120501. They were only 570 units apart on the assembly line. by fishbugman Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:07 am, Post If the production year was 1993 the digits would be 03, since yours is 13 you would tack on 10 years making production year 2003. Another aspect of reels made for the European market are the subtle differences onecan findversusmodels made for America. Recognizing subtle differences in tooling is the key. I invite you to visit Tom Jacomet's https://lurelore.com/website whichhosts my ABU information page. Many people wish to avail of toll-free telephone numbers however, do not exactly understand how they work. "ABU"engraving is located well to the left of spool cap. The first series of Ambassadeur 2000 is easily recognized by its carriage screw nut found on the left side plate. We don't know the answer to that because it would be impossible to verify. The complete list of bronze bushing models are listed here: 4000D, 4500, 5000(A,B,D) 5500(D) 6000, 6500 and 7000. The sharing of theHistory behind these Art-pieces provides an Educational Tourfor any Users or Collectors-to-be, while the Engineering Design provides a glimpse to the feature they are associated with. The four brushes in the middle are rifle bore brushes of different calibers. Thats the year that the reel was produced. 1887: Halda Watchmaking Company (A.B.Halda Fabriker) was established by Henning Hammarlund. URFABRIKEN SVANGSTA. Male knurlingdoes not have the "XXX" pattern. 5000 MOD SG, Record Amb. This rare beauty is owned by my dear friend Billy Taylor who also collects Ambassadeur. Lot number 751100 is the earliest production date found for this model. Soon after the beginning of 1958, "ABU" is now engraved above "Ambassadeur" on all 5000 models. published in December 2011 in both English and Japanese. Any views or opinions represented in this website are based on the website owners research with the various references and belong solely to the him. The Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5000 baitcasting reel has been deemed by many as the best baitcasting reel ever made. This example comes complete in the thin cardboard style box with end flaps. This example may be one of the very last one's mfg 'd in this style as its lot number indicates it was made in November 1981. This does not apply to prototype RECORD 6000 as some models were anodized in black having a solid gray spool and small black star drag. ABU has established herself into a household brand-named in many parts of the world because of her rich history and many of the First (patented parts) in her Fishing Reels. An unknown number of them were manufactured sometime between 1956 and very early 1958. Ambassadeur 5600C and 6500 (Brown) Reels were introduced. #811104. The earliest Record 5000 model was engraved MOD SG and is located on the lower left side plate. Complete transition from 4-screw to 3-screw would have taken place somewhere between #10735 and #010876. 1995: Proventus sold Abu Garcia to Pure Fishing. Now, the actual year "70" was used. Again, flat head pillar screws are correct but the spool tension cap does not reflect an oil port. Would like help in dating an Ambassadeur 5000, New to forum, so not sure how to post pics yet, but will start with description, Pillar screws with slightly rounded heads. Interactive weather map allows you to pan and zoom to get unmatched weather details in your local neighborhood or half a world away from The Weather Channel and Weather.com Ambassadeur 5000C (black) clicker knob (no sliding button switch) double grip . Rubber O-rings found on the left bearing housing should not be cleaned with Acetone either. Vintage Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 6500C . Not wanting to disturb Simon yet, I kept the listing to myself until a few days later when another one comes to auction which is the one pictured here. Small Abu Ambassadeur The Ambassadeur 1500C and 2500C described in this section refers to Small Ambassadeur reels produced from 1989 till Present (for Small Ambassadeurs produced before 1985, please refer to Classic Abu Ambassadeur, Ambassadeur 1500C & 2500C Series ). Production was 1961 and introduction was 1962. *Ambassadeur 5000D with Champagne Gold Sideplate and Frame was introduced in November. Can you help me with what it may be worth please.I would never sell it it used to be my fathers. Many of the parts inside this example are for Record models. That's the day I knew if I wanted to collect them, I had to learn about them. Reel models that have stickers showing their model numbers such as the 1500C, 4500, 4500C etc..can be damaged by Acetone. Notice how the letters are jammed together and the "4" in 4500 is open at the top. If it does not, the frame is most likely a replacement. The box bottom has the matching serial number to the reel. Designation for Thumbar is also in the second digit such as 6600C. Holding the handle still you will notice the knurled knob rotating when the fish made his run. Olympic was a tackle manufacturer and Japan agent for many reputable brands like Fin-Nor, Heddon and Luhr-Jensen from 1989 to 1993. ambassadeur reels answer #2 tholmes 1 year ago If I'm figuring right, 1972. In February 1976, version number "01" was added and remained this way throughout its production life ending in early 1977. Copyright 2015 by Fred Ribb - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, Models listed here can be read by the third type: 1500C, 2500C, 4000D, 4500(C), 4600C, 5000 (A B. Asterisk * denotes the 5000C as starting out with serial numbers in 1966 when production started. Note the tear drop or hook on the leading edge of his"7." or Best Offer. There is no previous numbers entered into the record book. Lowestserial number known at present for 5000CDL - #10145. Any downloadable file, including but not limiting to PDFs, DOCs, JPEGs, PNGs are provided at the users own risk. He manufactures his own line of custom-made ", Looking at the numbered dial around the bearing housing, the. Abu 5000 Reel with serial #223 UNKNOWN 5000C DE LUXE 4-SCREW DISCOVERY This is a very rare 5000C De Luxe 4-screw model. Acknowledgement: Mr Tom Taiton, Creator of Facebook Group We Who Loves The ABU Ambassadeur Reels', Len Borgstrom, 2006, ABU and GARCIA WHAT HAPPENED?, Simon Shimomura, June 25, 2000, The Ambassadeur and I, Daniel Skupien, 2002, Vintage Fishing Reels of Sweden. Part Number: 13306. Abu ambassadeur 5000c black serial number By A 5000C, 1 year ago on Other Reels 941 What year was this reel made? ABU Ambassadeur 5000D Green/Teal Side Plates 750401 $125.00 ABU Ambassadeur 5000 TOUGH 1981 Version with Flat Sides UNUSED IN BOX $275.00 ABU Ambassadeur 5001C Left Hand Twisted Knob RARE Model 721200 in Case $165.00 ABU Garcia Ambassadeur 6000C Excellent! If you have any questions, need an appraisal, or wish help with your reel or have additional information, you can reach me at this address: f_ribb@centex.net. (12) December (05) 1965 (01) revisions. Used in 1976 for certain models. One of the ingenious feature was the use of spherical bearing; the first of its kind. Reels - Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5000 In Vintage Abu Ambassadeur Leather Case For 5000 Or 6000 Fishing Reel?Garcia Vintage Ambassadeur reel case Pretty good shape. 1972: ABU produced the Ambassadeur 5500C and 6500C. There are variables to consider such as production model, limited models and year(s) made with and without "7" hook font. The serial numbers on these reels started with #1. The following details are comprehensive, but not exclusively limited. It is much finer in texture compared to the green handle which is original. The information in this section is meant to bring attention to part detail for classic-era models only and the collectible affect it may have on them. prize or commemorative reel or something. The Ambassadeur family of vintage fishing reels includes the original SG, followed by the 5000, 5500, and 6000. Ambassadeur 5000C Deluxe Reels were also introduced. As one looks at the endplate opposite the handle, the reel will either have 3 or 4 screws. I have an ambassadeur 5000c with the number 21466 on the foot. eBay item number: 374536457078. 1967: ABU changed all her frames from 4-Screws Model to 3-Screws Model. by Jerry J in OK Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:53 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, Absolution style by Premium phpBB Styles Late 1960s Ambassadeur Sweden in script with crest, Ca.Early to mid 1970s, button snap Ambassadeur Sweden in script with crest. Abu Garcia will have no other obligation and will not be liable for incidental or consequential damages. 4000, 6000(C) 8000 and 9000 can be found with the earliest date code arrangement. 5000De Luxe was neverdelivered with a counter-balance handle (#9219),only the small twin knob type.(#5179DL). At the same time, ABU also manufacture OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) reels for Pebeco. Lot #730303. While true, there are ways to determineifa transitional 6000 is authentic. Slightly later models are seen with gray spool arbor/red flanges and solid gray star drag. I have an Ambassadeur 5000 still in the case in mint condition, with tube o Hello, I have a Ambassadeur 5000 c black and the case as well. If your reel has #2, 4, 6, 8, 10..it should have a lot number. Production for this model began in June 1966 and was introduced to the public in 1967. The lead "0" in #010876 is a dummy number used by ABU and does not affect sequential numbering. Note the early March date of this reel which is well within the year limit. On the request from Mamiya-OP, ABU began producing small Ambassadeurs with colors and design never seen before. Chrome latch "Ambassadeur OF Sweden" in script, no crest, (very rare), ca. The earliest handle nut version for this model would have a round top and "oil" stamped once on it. What is meant is very simple. 1972 saw major changes with the introduction of beveled rims and dimpled reel foot. One aspect to consider is the design of specific parts. 5. #499705 was more than likely manufactured sometime in June 1965. Look closely and you can see apiece of the friction washer potruding between thehandle and star drag. But one can safely say pre 1964. I would say late 50's due to the red flanged spool with the grey arbor, but the serial # is what's throwing me off. Thanks for the info. Hisknowledgealso extendsto manyother makers of plastic lures manufactured fromthe 1930's~1980's. Fig # 1 Drag Washers (4) . 1978: Lennart Borgstrom moved to United States to try and save to ABUs most important market. MyTackleBox.AbuAmbassadeur@gmail.com, 6. Can anyone tell me how to date these reels. "Record" Ambassadeur 6000 made its debut in 1955 but by 1958, "Record" was changed to "ABU" Ambassadeur. This is the beginnings of the Ambassdeur Reels from ABU, featured with its iconic RED hue. These tips are for Ambassadeur reels made from 1952~1979. Basswiper The 6000 model was never stamped with serial numbers but is seen with all three lot number date codes. Part or design modifications were not necessarily confined to broader measures like side plate styles or reel foot designs but rather some of the changes were more specific in nature. #499705 was most likely manufactured/shipped in June 1965, well within the first 2 years of production where 5000B is not assembled with the click button. My 5000C serial number research continuestopoint to January 1968 as the date when all frames changed, however, it is the6000 model that may have been the first touse the "new" 3-screw frame by at least November 1967. MyTackleBox.AbuAmbassadeur is a personal website created for the benefit of the community. ", 1Spool tension cap with oil port (1958~1961), 3Counter balance handle/ball shape counterweight with large white knob (1958~1965), 4Counter balance handle/bullet shape counterweight with black twisted knob (1965~), 6Star drag with chrome skirt and friction washer (1965~), 7Flathead pillar screw "left side plate" (1958~, 8Slightly rounded pillar screw (1965~), 9Spool with gray arbor/red flange (1958), 10.Spool with black arbor/red flange (1959). Some of the lot numbersareseen withrevision numbers "01"and "02." Pre-1980 ABU production items do not have "7" hook font. Ambassdeur ABU, Record Ambassadeur Reels 19401940Record Ambassadeur MOD SG 21952. This is an on-going effort and I will update them as soon as I have the capacity to do so. 3. and access all back issues online, Get access to exclusive member shows and content, Post The 90mm chrome handles that were assembled to the brown 5500 in mid-1976 and on, would not fit inside any case. The Record Ambassadeur 5000, 5000A, and 6000 models were also added to the series of Ambassadeur lineups. Posts: 1. Currently, I'm only 94 reels apart. Tfisher The box style below is Europeanand does not come with theGarcia wedge shapedbanner. The combination of parts I list by number should be assembled to the reel. Abu garcia ambassadeur 5000 parts series#000, 6000, 7000 reel series carriage screw lock. 4600C, 5600C and 6600C were ABU's only Thumbar models produced during the classic years which ended in 1979. In all my years of collecting I've yet to come across this version, however, I have seen this model with all the features I mentioned but it had beveled rim. Ambassadeur 1500C2500C19751985(1985Small ABU Ambassadeur ), 10403(4.003.2704.011.7744.042.186)2, 19753Ambassadeur 2500C19761976, 2500C21500C2500C1500C197931500C2500C19821985. Flat head type pillar screws are correct and spool tension cap has the oil port suggesting this example was made some time between 1958 and 1961. When I checked the serial number on the reel, that's when I knew something very unusual may be in the works. In question is the left plate's numbered bearing housing with "hook" or "tear-drop" shape font on the leading edge of the number "7". They are usually found on boxes in the form of an ink stamp, stenciled white sticker or pin holes punched through the cardboard. Up to the middle of 1964, the 6000 did not carry a foot number. While spool and star drag color arrangements listed below are the ones most often seen with respect to the category they fall under, there may be variations not listed. 5000 De Luxe started with serial number one (1). It was not listed in the Garcia catalog until 1981 as mentioned in Simon's first book. Let dry and repeat once. Are there in fact, another221 individual items withsequential numbers between #11~#231? The display card here is interesting because of the sticker placed above "5000" which reads, "Model C with ball bearings." Crank nut threading for Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5000? Brake plates for original brown 6500 are silver. 3 SCREW MODEL. Lot number 740500 has no design changes. Simon searched through his spread sheet of serial numbers for 5000C De Luxe and 5000 De Luxe models. Free shipping for many products! The website owner will not be liable for any error or omission in this information nor for the availability of this information. In the 1960s and 70s, Galveston, Texas was where my family spent its free time. Can you ever recallseeinga 5000 De Luxe stamped with serial number #11 through #231? Gte's first fishing reel was the Abu Record, produced in 1941. The answer is simple: It's the over lap of old style parts being used on next season's reels. 1921: AB Urfabriken (ABU) was established by Carl-August Borgstrom, producing telephone control clocks and taximeters. Colors like Gold (or champagne), Blue, Red and Green were included into the family together with the CI model which was produced only for Independent dealers. Although earlier direct drive models were produced by ABU, the 5000D was quite different. Questions & Answers Page A. Hotspots. VINTAGE Red ABU AMBASSADEUR 5000 BAIT CASTING FISHING REEL, FOOT #81845. Your reel, has a spool typical of a late 1950's Abu 5000 Record, but the serial number is of a later reel, and the handle nut does not have the oil port that a reel from the late 50's would have. 1988: Inventive sold ABU Garica to Aritmos (another Swedish conglomerate). The very first entry to the book was 0232~0352 to G and there was nothing before. This is a classic example of a reproduction sticker and is not original for reels made in the 1970s. 1956: Garcia became the exclusive ABU distributor for the United States and Abu-matic, the first closed-faced spinning reel was released. All reproduction handles will have a flat post pin. By this time, the rights to market Abu products in Japan had been transferred from Ebisu Fishing to Olympic. The handle and star draghave now changed to the more traditional style seen on this model but the handle nut with oil port is still in use. 1977: ABU Museum was established. The best part of this combo is the box sticker with matching serial number of the reel. View showing display card and box top with "B" sticker added. Started January 23, 2014, By My introduction to collecting tackle started with lures and quickly spread to reels. In addition to the contributions from the wonderful friend of mine, references and research together with theopportunity to inspect more than 400 pieces of these fishing reels equipped me with these knowledge to share. It should be noted that the correct 5500 handle for this case is the 80mm power handle with twin flat knobs.